Following his eight-year tenure as the President of the United States, Barack Obama has been a busy man. He's shared photographs showing his highlights of family vacations, continues to give speeches worldwide, has written a memoir, and now has a podcast, Renegades, that he co-hosts with music icon, and good friend, Bruce Springsteen. During a recent episode, the two men talked about racism and Obama shared a story of breaking a classmate's nose after being called a "c**n."
"Listen, when I was in school, I had a friend. We played basketball together," said the 44th president. "And one time we got into a fight and he called me a c**n... Now, first of all, ain’t no c**ns in Hawaii, right?" Obama added, "It’s one of those things that—where he might not even known what a c**n was—what he knew was, 'I can hurt you by saying this.'"
With a laugh he continued, "And I remember I popped him in the face and broke his nose. And we were in the locker room." The former president recognized the power play being implemented by his friend. "'I may be poor. I may be ignorant. I may be mean. I may be ugly. I may not like myself. I may be unhappy. But you know what I’m not? I’m not you.'"
"That basic psychology that then gets institutionalized is used to justify dehumanizing somebody, taking advantage of 'em, cheatin' 'em, stealin' from 'em, killin' 'em, raping 'em," said Obama. "Whatever it is, at the end of the day it really comes down to that. And in some cases it’s as simple as, you know, 'I’m scared I’m insignificant and not important. And this thing is the thing that’s going to give me some importance.'"
Listen to the episode of Renegades below.
