Nelly Accused Of Abandoning St. Lunatics By Rapper Ali: "I Got Hustled"

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Ali claimed that he helped Nelly write his bars "but got no credit."

Prior to being a rap icon, Nelly and his childhood friends formed their Hip Hop group, St. Lunatics, in 1993. The collective consisted of the "Hot in Herre" rapper along with his pals Kyjuan, City Spud, Murphy Lee, and Ali. They had a bit of success in 1997 with their single "Gimme What Ya Got," but they struggled to build a fanbase outside of their St. Louis city limits. As the story has been shared over the years, the group allowed Nelly to move forward as a solo artist, but according to Ali, that isn't the whole story.

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Yesterday (February 1), Ali kicked off the month by posting a video clip of himself with Nelly and included a lengthy post detailing why he has issues with his friend. He recognized that people would call him "childish" for airing out his business on social media, but he retorted that he's not "the type to throw a rock and hide his hand."

Ali took readers through the history of the formation of the St. Lunatics, including a claim that their label didn't want Nelly's verse on "Gimme What Ya Got" but he fought for it. He also stated that he was offered a solo record deal but instead chose to ride it out with his group, but when Mase's manager, Cudda, was introduced to the crew, he only wanted to represent Nelly and City Spud.

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"They left with Cudda (went to Harlem)," wrote Ali. "The separation became The reality... They had left !!! We(The rest of the group) felt ‘HUSTLED’.... we were *1 until, The opportunity was presented to be *2 ..they hustled us!! Fast forward Universal record signs Nelly : Nelly has his manager (my bf @stltluv ).... call me and he said : 'Nelly said he doesn’t NEED YOU to help him write.'"

Ali felt slighted by Nelly because he suggested he felt used, so he took a step back and said he would no longer help Nelly pen his rhymes. "Some kind of way I ended up going ...I ended up helping him write ... but got no credit!! Wow !! I got hustled !!" he added. "You live and you learn." Nelly has yet to respond to his friend's accusations, but while fans wait, you can check out Ali's post below.

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Since 2019, Erika Marie has worked as a journalist for HotNewHipHop, covering music, film, television, art, fashion, politics, and all things regarding entertainment. With 20 years in the industry under her belt, Erika Marie moved from a writer on the graveyard shift at HNHH to becoming a Features Editor, highlighting long-form content and interviews with some of Hip Hop’s biggest stars. She has had the pleasure of sitting down with artists and personalities like DJ Jazzy Jeff, Salt ’N Pepa, Nick Cannon, Rah Digga, Rakim, Rapsody, Ari Lennox, Jacquees, Roxanne Shante, Yo-Yo, Sean Paul, Raven Symoné, Queen Naija, Ryan Destiny, DreamDoll, DaniLeigh, Sean Kingston, Reginae Carter, Jason Lee, Kamaiyah, Rome Flynn, Zonnique, Fantasia, and Just Blaze—just to name a few. In addition to one-on-one chats with influential public figures, Erika Marie also covers content connected to the culture. She’s attended and covered the BET Awards as well as private listening parties, the Rolling Loud festival, and other events that emphasize established and rising talents. Detroit-born and Long Beach (CA)-raised, Erika Marie has eclectic music taste that often helps direct the interests she focuses on here at HNHH. She finds it necessary to report on cultural conversations with respect and honor those on the mic and the hardworking teams that help get them there. Moreover, as an advocate for women, Erika Marie pays particular attention to the impact of femcees. She sits down with rising rappers for HNHH—like Big Jade, Kali, Rubi Rose, Armani Caesar, Amy Luciani, and Omerettà—to gain their perspectives on a fast-paced industry.

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